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Post by Kracken on Nov 17, 2009 20:14:47 GMT -6
So I was talking to crater about his beltflag test thing last practice, which we didn't get to because I waited too long to think about it, but drakken overheard and asked how he could get one.
So... same challenge for older people to get a flag? Knowledge of the rules, good honor, weapons and garb, spar with the officers for a few weeks and then trial at the end of it all.
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Post by Khador Administrator on Nov 17, 2009 22:16:18 GMT -6
Good question. I'm fine either way with Draken.
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Post by Ironside on Nov 18, 2009 2:54:08 GMT -6
Well, we use Krucible as a promotion for when someone receives a rank in Khador. If we Krucible everyone, it kind of loses it's meaning. It's a trial, something that says "You've shown prowess. Now prove you're up for it."
I don't think we should Krucible people for a normal belt flag. I think we should keep it strictly for promotions into an actual rank in Khador. In in that light. I like the idea of having to know your stuff, maybe even have six months or so under your belt fighting with Khador before being given a belt flag. I just think Krucible should be used as a promotion.
However, I wouldn't be opposed to a trial. Just not a full on Krucible. Maybe make them go down the line and fight everyone until they win, then present them with a flag.
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Post by Kracken on Nov 18, 2009 12:57:27 GMT -6
I'm saying we should do it like with AM. He sparred for four weeks with all the realm officers then at the end of it he barreled. 9/10ths of his barrel was completely random fights (most of which he lost). The trial itself really really just a showing of "Hey, this kid is letting us beat on him and he's not being a dirty cheater about it."
I don't care if they pass or fail, I'm more concerned that goofy bastards are going to get drunk as fuck and do stupid shit at events wearing our flag.
Maybe that's a bit harsh. Put it another way,
"Hey, we think you would represent us really good. If you do this and this you get a beltflag." And then at funny things happen.
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Post by Ironside on Nov 18, 2009 14:00:08 GMT -6
Well, thinking about it in that light... I approve.
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Post by Bluff on Nov 20, 2009 13:00:48 GMT -6
well, with the garb I had just received from Brooder, and the spear I have now, I think I Can qualify for one of these belt flags as well..... but thats up to you guys.
Could I try for one? or do I need alittle more time under my belt?
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Post by Kracken on Nov 20, 2009 16:49:44 GMT -6
I should totally be a dick and make you guys compete for it.
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Post by Ironside on Nov 20, 2009 17:31:35 GMT -6
Haha, I actually like that idea!
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Post by Bluff on Nov 20, 2009 17:51:31 GMT -6
well, he'd probably win, seeing as how i've yet to figure out a sure-fire way of getting past a shield with a spear, but it'd be damn fun anyway XD
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Post by Ironside on Nov 20, 2009 19:07:21 GMT -6
Well, there's ways to do that...but really, Spearmen are at their best in lines. Then you can employ tricks like shield pinning, low thrusts to drop shields and so on. A spear is a support weapon, no matter how you look at it. Which is why I Blue and Board during cutthroats and such. Unless you've gotten a lot of practice with a spear, you're better off using it in the way it was intended. Support.
Have you thought about adding a shield hook to your spear? They're a little pissy to utilize, but once you get the hang of them, they do their job well.
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Post by Ironside on Nov 20, 2009 19:16:15 GMT -6
Additionally, I'd like to add this. Yes, I could have modified my post, buuuut....
Official Khador Member Trial
Trial 1 - Officer Trial
Each officer will give you one challenge. This is, typically, fighting five times using a specific weapon style, but other challenges may be employed. (Such as arrow dodging, rule qizzes, and so on. This trial usually depends on the officer's current mood.)
Trial 2 - Kovniks
You must fight until you win against all present Kovniks. In this challenge, you must fight using the Kovnik's preferred weapon style. (Example: If the Kovnik florentines, you must florentine.)
Trial 3 - Barefisting Brooder
You must grapple Brooder. Win is determined by total shoulder pin to a 3 count, or manner of submission. Should Brooder not be present, another suitable (and hopefully willing) challenger will be selected.
Opinions?
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Post by Kracken on Nov 20, 2009 19:45:09 GMT -6
First, about spears as stand alones: next time I'm out at practice grab a couple of spears and come see me. Second, don't fuck with hooks till you've got somemore experience building weapons.
About the trial, I think all that over complicates things. Just say all Officers and Kovniks get to fight. Each one gets to choose the weapon style of the fight and no two trials can have the same weapon set. 5 fights, win or loose. It's not so much about skill as honor.
The vagueness is what makes it interesting. I've actually got two flags so I might have you guys fight just for first pick. Maybe do a best of 15 fights or something that would actually have a clear winner.
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Post by Bluff on Nov 20, 2009 20:03:27 GMT -6
Cool, and yes I have thought about spear hooks, but I want to get good with my spear first before I even attempt at making a spear hook. There are 3 things I wanna do next after my current magnet experiment ((the magnets have been ordered and are on the way as we speak.. )) I wanna make a wing'ed sword ((kinda like a Kukri)) a shield ((not hard to do.. but... )) and covers for both of them ((the hard part, for me anyway)) but, I have no idea where to even start with the cloth and whatnot, and as far as sewing, yeah.. I can't sew worth crap ((yet ))
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Post by Ironside on Nov 20, 2009 20:09:46 GMT -6
Trigger, or Bottomweight, is the standard for weapon covers. It's tough, water resistant, and overall the best choice for a weapon cover. Trigger usually runs between 7 - 9 bucks a yard.
However, you can get away with virtually any non-abrasive fabric. For a cheap and quick weapon cover, pick up a pair of baseball socks. Use an old bedsheet for a shield cover. In those cases, you don't need to worry about sewing. Sock on weapon, tape it in place. Cloth over shield, tape in place.
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Post by Bluff on Nov 20, 2009 20:21:12 GMT -6
. . . you gave me a weekend project, Ironside... thank you
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Post by Ironside on Nov 20, 2009 22:03:50 GMT -6
Haha, awesome. Glad to help you out there, bud.
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Post by Khador Administrator on Nov 21, 2009 0:07:22 GMT -6
Trial 3 - Barefisting Brooder You must grapple Brooder. Win is determined by total shoulder pin to a 3 count, or manner of submission. Should Brooder not be present, another suitable (and hopefully willing) challenger will be selected. Opinions? Only if they are adults. I can not guarantee your penis' safety.
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Post by Ironside on Nov 21, 2009 5:15:33 GMT -6
You're right, my idea is over complicating a bit. I guess whatever trials people who hold ranks in Khador would work out just as awesome.
ARIBA!
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Post by Dracken Amerasau on Nov 27, 2009 18:52:31 GMT -6
just thought i would stop in here. i would be willing to take the tests etc, also whats the actual order of advancements what is it. also. i see the logic for a set timelimit for a restriction but i would like to protest to that if i am allowe3d. i believe that if a person is willing to undertake a more serious challenge than the should be allowed.
once again though these are my thoughts and i hold no power so its not really up to me
p.s --> and if the person who told me that i dont have to do all the 'wrist flourishes' is reading this, i am sorry. i treated you really bad loooking back on it, i should have realized you were just trying to help. sorry...
p.s.s--> brooder--> thanks for the props.
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Post by Kracken on Nov 27, 2009 21:25:26 GMT -6
i believe that if a person is willing to undertake a more serious challenge than the should be allowed. You think there should or should not be a time limit? On the othre part as it stands there are two challanges of the realm. One for the beltflag and one for the Kovnik status. Other than that there are the trials for realm officers but thats a yearly thing and only if someone is leaving or being challanged or something.
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