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Post by Wren(nen) on Nov 7, 2010 22:08:50 GMT -6
Hoping I'm posting this in the right spot. Wasn't really sure where to post it on here. Khador Realm Meeting notes and 2011 Season Nomitations, etc from Sunday, November 7th, 2010: Officer Nominations: Premier: Kracken (current Premier) Ironside with 6 nomiations Supreme Kommadant: Lloyd (current Kommadant) Quarian with 5 nominations Kommadant: Waffle with 4 nominations Renell also with 4 nominations Note: Ironside, the current Kommadant, can't re-run for Kommadant since he's running/was nominated for Premier. Also, any current officers can chose not to re-run for their position if they so choice. Also, nominations are still open for another week, I believe, and voting will be in two weeks. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on this. Other things discussed: -Kaptain position which will be defined more under Officers later in the notes. This is not a current position but has been talked about becoming an officer position before and seems like something the realm could really use. -Constitution issues: Technically, we don't really have one. Work was starting on one back in 2009 but then it just kind of died. Nothing was ever finalized or voted on. Not only do we need to do that, but this thing needs work as in things added to it, etc. We need an actual Constitution and we need to follow it. This needs to happen no matter what the outcome of the election is. Link to current Khador "Constitution": khador.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=116-Waffle wants to do something to help recruit people from Rockford College. Also mentioned Rock Valley College in there too. Personally, I (Wren) would like to try to get something going around Freeport too. We have a slight growing interest there-the kid who comes out darn near weekly now, the kid from RockCon. *Start of Notes from after practice at Perkins* Attendance (Khador members): 11: Lomion, Renell, Ironside, Waffle, Dohrmaht, Quarian, Fayla, Allia Wren, Woozle, Saxavarious, and Frozgaar Repeat of everything from before. -It was clarified that a Kovnik voted into an officer position (Premier, Supreme Kommadant, Kommadant, etc.) is still a Kovnik. They don't lose that title upon becoming an officer. Once a Kovnik, always a Kovnik. -Dohrmat was booed for spilling his water. Later Sax was booed for spilling his pop. Breakdown of Officer Positions: -Premier: - Functions as realm leader
- chairman at realm meetings; can officially call meetings
- keep & maintain loaner weapons with assistance
-Supreme Kommadant: - second in command, takes command when Premier is not present
- steps in if Premier steps down
*If Ironside's Constitutional revisions pass, Supreme Kommadant is in charge of inter-realm relationships such as Build Days, Garb Days, Training Days, etc. -Kommadant: - realm treasurer
- monitor realm money put towards all realm related related things: foam, dap, etc.
- can request dispersal of funds from Premier to purchase supplies with permission from the Premier.
-Kaptain (if rank/office passes): - secretary & public relations
- keeps track of all paper work such as waivers, copies of Book of War & Khador Constitution, flyers, attendance, etc. All of which should come to every practice.
*According to Ironside's Constitutional Revisions: -Kovnik(s): - can vote on additions and/or revisions to Constitution as well as any realm rules.
- doesn't count as an officer rank, therefore, a Kovnik can hold any office as well.
- they still only receive one vote and lead a squad in any squad battle if both an officer and a Kovnik.
- responsible for helping their squad members improve. Squads are static for one full season.
Current Kovniks: Quarian Waffle Frozgaar Belt Flag Trial list for next season (2011) in no certain order: -Swerv (requested a redo) -Griff -Dohrmaht -Saxavarious -Jason -Faylah -Wren -Togot (?)-to be debated Ironside and Waffle both need flags. Honorary Membership for next season?-to be debated: -Briar -Fissi -Kihose -Noodle (?) Kovnik list for next season: -Kracken * -Lloyd * -Lomion End of Meeting Notes. If anyone would like to add anything, comment, ask questions, or make further nominations, please feel free to do so. Thank you. Notes taken by Wren & Waffle. Typed by Wren. Officially signed by Allia Wren von dem Brink. (cause full names make things official).
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Post by Waffle Geezerson on Nov 7, 2010 23:16:10 GMT -6
Just like to add and perhaps clear some confusion up, Khadorians require 2 attended national events before they can be nominated to Kovnik.
EDIT: If Ironside is not elected he would be up for Kovnik next year also, yes?
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Post by Lloyd on Nov 8, 2010 15:27:29 GMT -6
I am openly opposed to the proposed revision mentioned whether or not i stay in office. Garb and build days, ect work fine without having one person be responsible for them. I say whoever wants to throw one throw one.
Also let the mud slinging begin!!1
9 out of 10 scientists agree Senator Quarian is a member of Jester's Court. Do you really want a member of Jester's Court responsible for your children's future?
Paid for Lloyd Mann Irony Association for the Advancement of Lloyd
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Post by Khador Administrator on Nov 8, 2010 16:23:48 GMT -6
Good job Kara. Who's Dohrmaht? Why should those people deserve honorarys? Jason's name is Oak. Those who are running: Speeches. Debates. List qualifications. Why should I vote/support you? All that good jazz. Do you really want a member of Jester's Court responsible for your children's future? Paid for Lloyd Mann Irony Association for the Advancement of Lloyd I see what you did there. lolz.
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Post by ladyrenellofgilead on Nov 8, 2010 17:27:01 GMT -6
I don't know about making a speech online. That would be kind of impossible really. My qualifications. I have been fighting/involved in the sport for 10 plus years. I was VERY involved in the organization and implementation of the Constitution and distribution of such when Murdock was in charge of Dunharrow. Myself and Remus were in charge of the Western Keep of Dunharrow and as such, I kept track of waivers, newcomers, training of newcomers, treasury duties for dues and making sure those dues got to the leadership of Dunharrow in Elgin, distribution of belt flags in the Western keep as well as specific belt flags for our individual keep so that we had the differentiation from the main group of Dunharrow but still were recognized as part of Dunharrow. Ran practices each week. Heralded practices. taught newcomers rules and how to take hits. Attended realm meetings and implemented updates for the Keep as a result. Made garb for new members and also loaner garb. This is all I can come up with off the top of my head. I will post more if and when I can think of it. I kind of think this pretty much qualifies me for any position you got though!
Just sayin'
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Post by Waffle Geezerson on Nov 8, 2010 23:42:56 GMT -6
Qualifications: I have been fighting for 2 1/2 years, have built my own weapons and know how to teach others to do so. I also have a large space available for build days if revision passes and we get together to work on loaner gear that i would be responsible for purchasing with realm funds. I've introduced a few new people to the sport, however i've yet to find anyone to stick around on a week to week basis. I hope to change this once i am at Rockford college and i plan on handing out Flyers on a regular basis to attract attention to our Group and Belegarth as a whole.
Side Note: I would just like to say, whatever the outcome, of the Kommandant position, i will be happy. I wouldn't mind the job, but on a personal level My opponent has much more experience with garbing people and helping them get started than myself, but im working on getting a recruiting program together to grab up college students, which would be our primary target group since about 85% percent of our group consists of them.
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Post by Kracken on Nov 9, 2010 0:27:54 GMT -6
My Qualifications: Been serving as Premiere for a year, fighting for 4 years, maintained most all of the realm loaners, build half of the weapons and shields in the realm, occasionally stop to teach people that really need it, etc etc.
Seriously, if I have to explain all this then I obviously haven't been doing my job. Otherwise I wouldn't mind doing it for a year more.
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Post by Wren(nen) on Nov 9, 2010 1:08:52 GMT -6
Danke Brooder. Oddly, I really enjoyed doing this. Honestly miss doing this type of stuff. Oh and Dohrmaht is a really odd way of spelling Doormat. It's Waffle's younger brother and Greezer's son.
May I point out that Lloyd is also a Jester.
Also Lloyd, I think the idea of having one person in charge of build days, garb days, etc days is that that one person would be in charge of posting/informing others about them going on. Anyone could suggest doing on and throw out a date but that person would be the one to like I said, post and inform everyone about it. They would be the person to get ahold of for info on such things like that. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone.
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Post by Ironside on Nov 9, 2010 1:44:31 GMT -6
Hm. Coulda swore Tenyr was on the list to be flagged in. I know I mentioned he was up for 'em. Ah well. He's up for it, too.
Qualifications: 3 years fighting. Served as Kommandant for a year. Organized. Gets stuff done (see me around camp at an event). Generally well-liked. Full of good ideas on how to progress Khador in the eyes of the BMCS.
Note on the constitution. Since I have free time like a mofo, I grabbed it and edited it to work more with what we're currently doing in Khador, since that old draft is horridly outdated. I'll throw it up here when I get it worked out and looked over for ya'lls opinions.
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Post by Frozgaar on Nov 9, 2010 2:30:44 GMT -6
Qualifications: "I have been fighting for 3 1/2 years" Correction: 2 1/2 years. lol
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Post by Lloyd on Nov 9, 2010 5:04:56 GMT -6
May I point out that Lloyd is also a Jester. Also Lloyd, I think the idea of having one person in charge of build days, garb days, etc days is that that one person would be in charge of posting/informing others about them going on. Anyone could suggest doing on and throw out a date but that person would be the one to like I said, post and inform everyone about it. They would be the person to get ahold of for info on such things like that. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone. First point: Kara that was the joke......christ Second point: Sounds very unnecessary. If it ain't broke.... Qualifications: Served as the Kommandant when the position was invented. Served as Supreme Kommandant. Set up secondary practice which did not take off. You all know my campsite decorum. You all know what i do. I have trouble making the regular practices because of work. Q is at least as qualified for the position as i am. It's up the people as to whether or not they want me to keep doing what I'm doing or try Q. I'm cool either way.
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Post by ladyrenellofgilead on Nov 9, 2010 8:31:21 GMT -6
Just thought of more stuff. Know how to build and repair weapons. Very experienced Archer. Have experience with Roberts Rules of Order for meetings which would be a very good idea to implement at meetings for less confusion. Just sayin. Reiterating was co-leader of Western Keep of Dunharrow for 2 years out here in Rockford. I did all the work Remus did all the P.R. and got all the credit. Lomion can confirm on a lot of that. (he was around) I did not do all the training though that was a 50/50 deal. I did do most of the Heralding however as well as all of the Garb and paperwork. I also made flyers and distributed around town. I attempted to get something going with RVC but at that time they were not willing to have anything to do with BMCS at all pretty much. (2001-2002)
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Post by Waffle Geezerson on Nov 9, 2010 10:58:53 GMT -6
Qualifications: "I have been fighting for 3 1/2 years" Correction: 2 1/2 years. lol typo, fixed
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Post by Q on Nov 9, 2010 11:42:56 GMT -6
Qualifications: -I have been fighting for a total of 4 years (two consecutively with Khador) -I am currently a Kovnik of Khador -I have significant knowledge (if not always the drive, lol) of building weapons and shields -Coming soon to a realm near you: Q hyde armor! -I do what I can to teach newer fighters what I know -I was a corporal for a year and from that experience I got good at taking ideas and making them happen
Mudslinging: -I'm an honorary professor of jackassery at Jester University -Lloyd may have more experience at the job than I do, but I have much, much less hair -I once wrestled a grizzly bear with my bare teeth -I did not have sexual relations with that girl...no no, not that one, the other one... -I can say with utmost certainty that I will absolutely not raise taxes in my time as Supreme Kommandant -Lloyd has long hair, and you know what they say about people with long hair....they like to kill kittens with sledgehammers.
Remember my slogan when it comes time to cast your vote: "Yeah, we probably can!"
The opinions and views expressed here in the "Mudslinging" section are solely those of the person typing them and do not reflect those of Quarian...or the truth.
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Post by ladyrenellofgilead on Nov 9, 2010 12:24:25 GMT -6
Okay for Mudslinging...
You know I am the strongest person on this field EVER in voice and body...even with all the steel in my back and now I can set off ALL the alarms in the airport and courthouses across the land... I punch bears and my granddaughter slings Tigers my opponent is young enough to be one of my kids...You are ALL young enough to be one of my kids so...yeah go do some homework or go build your weapons or something because Mama Said So!!
This message approved by me because I am YOUR MAMA!! You better listen to your Mama or go to your rooms!!
FIGHTERS TO THE FIELDS!!! (LOUDER THAN TENYR AND EVERYBODY ELSE!!)
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Post by Khador Administrator on Nov 9, 2010 18:36:24 GMT -6
Even though a couple of Q's points made me giggle, stay on topic guys. Thanks for the resumes. Just keep in mind that just because you're good at such and such doesn't mean you're good for that office. I'm good at sword n board and hearlding and weapons checking but that doesn't mean I'd make a good Primier for public relations reasons or organizational skills, for example. Basically what I'm getting at is list qualifications you think you have to hold the office you're running for, not just the whole Belegarth experence in general. I know that my mind has not been made up yet, and I still like to hear what you have to say in regards to the office you're running for, and some of you haven't really touched upon part that in my not so humble opinion.
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Post by ladyrenellofgilead on Nov 9, 2010 20:43:31 GMT -6
-Kommadant:
• realm treasurer • monitor realm money put towards all realm related related things: foam, dap, etc. • can request dispersal of funds from Premier to purchase supplies with permission from the Premier. My qualifications for the above:
1. Realm Treasurer: I was Treasurer for the Western Keep of Dunharrow responsible for collection of dues for members of the Keep and the way it worked was as a Keep we were able to use some of the funds for weapons for loaners. Dispersed monies for weapons building kept track of said funds in ledger form and receipts and presented to Realm Treasurer and Realm at meetings I believe that answers the qualifications of Kommadant? (spelling?) copied and pasted from board so don’t believe that is correct spelling but hey not here to be spelling police.
I am more than qualified for this position. I have the knowledge the experience the know how the ability and the equipment to get the job done. I also have some experience in real life as was an accounts receivable rep for G&K Services Garment company rental garments for manufacturing and service uniforms etc. I called accounts to collect on debts that were past due and set up payment arrangements with them etc.
I was in that position for over a year until the company downsized due to overspending in retooling the plant.
Brooder, that more like it for you? Although I feel like I am repeating myself here at this point on many of the things I have mentioned previously.
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Post by Wilhelm on Nov 9, 2010 21:36:47 GMT -6
Constitutional revisions pass, Supreme Kommadant is in charge of inter-realm relationships such as Build Days, Garb Days, Training Days, etc. Why do we feel this needs to be put in to the Constitution? and Candidates how shall you get more people into the realm??? Will you make new policy for getting people more up to speed on the there own gear?
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Post by Ironside on Nov 9, 2010 23:23:56 GMT -6
I felt it was a good change to have someone be in charge of our inner-realm activities, organizing and handling materials thereof. Hey, this is why we vote on stuff. Something you don't like, you express it come voting.
I won't debate. I won't mudsling (jokingly or not). I'll just tell you what I will do for Khador as the Premier.
I'll organize Khador. I'll get us a constitution that is completed and works (that the realm will vote in or out). I'll put heralds on our fields. I'll build a pile of loaner equipment owned by the realm. I will help our fighters get garbed. I will get flags to those who need them. I'll do what I need to to move Khador up in the BMCS, hopefully up to Speaking Rights. I'll keep the BoW on hand at practice. I will get Khador waivers and keep those on record. I will take what comes up in realm meetings and I will follow through on the decisions. I will get our officers to do the duties they're supposed to. I will cook for you at events. I will teach you how to cook for yourself at events. I will do whatever the realm wants to be done, because Khador knows what is best for Khador. Above all that, I will take initiative to do it all and it will get done.
All in all, I just want to see Khador move up in the sport as a whole. Best way to do that is to organize the realm and do the things we need to do for the sport to take notice of us.
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Post by Wren(nen) on Nov 9, 2010 23:35:17 GMT -6
Lloyd, I was joking in reply to your joke. Geesh.
Wilhelm, just for clarity proposes, why does what need to be in the Constitution?
I really haven't looked over it all that much yet, but isn't the Con supposed to list stuff like who we are, what we stand for, our rules, etc? Basically list the innerworkers of the realm right or am I wrong on that?
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