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Post by Ironside on Jul 15, 2010 9:10:39 GMT -6
Mom, you've been doing this longer than any of us. I trust your judgment enough not to put you through the exam. But I'm in absolute agreement. We need to get heralds out on the field with good heads and good eyes. I also think anyone who can be a weapon's checker should be able to double as a herald, and visa versa. geddon.org/index.php/Book_of_warStart readin', hopefuls.
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Post by Khador Administrator on Jul 15, 2010 11:25:16 GMT -6
I can put a test together once the summer classes are over with. It will contain official and unofficial rules and what would you do if you saw such and such.
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Post by Ironside on Jul 15, 2010 11:30:46 GMT -6
I can go for that, Brooder. Good idea. Maybe make it a two part thing. One being rules knowledge, one being spotting and calls.
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Q
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Post by Q on Jul 15, 2010 23:46:06 GMT -6
I've actually been thinking lately for volunteering to herald. I could start this weekend if ya'll would like, or I could wait and take the test Brooder's puttin together.
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Post by Khador Administrator on Jul 16, 2010 0:30:41 GMT -6
Go ahead and do it. I don't know when is the next time I'll see you guys. Plus, like I said it will take a couple of weeks before I even get this finialzied. But it'll be a very comprehensive one for sure.
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Post by Ironside on Jul 16, 2010 8:18:15 GMT -6
I'm leaning to agree with Renell. You know your stuff on the rules. You've corrected me and answered my own questions a couple times. I know for certain you would be fine for calls and standing to those calls, and putting people who argue them in their place. I just dunno how good of an eye you got for these things, since I don't recall you ever heralding.
I wanna say, throw you out as a herald for a couple weeks, then maybe, if you need it, pop you through the visual exam.
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Post by Ironside on Jul 16, 2010 10:49:39 GMT -6
I think with javvies, it has to fly the whole legnth of the shaft, basically, a 5 foot rule. But I agree to an extent on under 15, don't throw. at least with javvies and some people. (Skittles)
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Post by Khador Administrator on Jul 16, 2010 14:25:33 GMT -6
Javies and arrows can in fact be thrown under 15 feet. They just need to be drawn at half draw (or not so damn hard in the case of javies, think "toss" instead of "throw"). If the javie and arrow doesn't travel the entire legth of the weapon then it is not a valid shot. "3.8.2. A half draw or throw for Class 4 Weapons under a range of 15 feet is required. 3.8.3. A missile Weapon must travel its entire length to score a hit." Wham bam thank you m'am.
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Post by Wilhelm on Jul 16, 2010 19:02:56 GMT -6
Some thing that I have been thinking about is this. Javelins are class four weapons so they are thrown weapon right, so why then do people use them as a small spears? So then the Javelins would then have conform to class two weapons to be used as a small spear, or am I off base with that... trying to clear this up before it becomes a problem for me and it coming fast.
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Post by Ironside on Jul 17, 2010 15:41:52 GMT -6
I think you mean class 3/4.
3.2.2.3. Class 3 (thrusting) Weapons wielded one-handed cause one hit of damage to an unarmored Target Area. Class 3 Weapons also cause two hits of damage when wielded two-handed against a Target Area, ignoring any Armor the Target Area may have. If the Target Area is armored, the Weapon must be wielded two-handed to cause damage to the Target Area. A one-handed strike causes no injury to an Armored Target Area.
Class 2 is Two-Handed Swung (Red). If someone is redding with a jav, ur doin it rong.
1.4.7. Javelins must conform to all of the following:
1.4.7.1. Must also pass as a Class 3 Weapon. 1.4.7.2. The maximum weight is twenty-four (24) ounces. 1.4.7.3. The minimum length is four (4) feet. 1.4.7.4. The maximum length is seven (7) feet. 1.4.7.5. Padded along the entire length. 1.4.7.6. Must flex less than 90°. This is an exception to Appendix A, 1.3.5. 1.4.7.7. Must have a yellow cover.
It must PASS AS. But does not need to CONFORM TO the Class 3 specifications.
So basically Wilhelm, if you make a Jav or are weapons checking one, you have to make sure it's safe enough to act and a thrown and a thrust weapon. In my mind, when I check a Jav, I do some hard two handed stabs. I figure, those are more dangerous than hucking the thing. If it passes that, I clear it for field use.
Edits: Removed redundant statements and changed wording for clarity.
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Post by Wren(nen) on Jul 19, 2010 9:22:08 GMT -6
Reminder.....can someone please bring a BoW to practice this weekend? Didn't get on this week and it would be nice to start working on this. The little bit of heralding I got to do yesterday was really fun and I really enjoyed it and would like to continue doing it more, but yeah, I need to know more stuff too.
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Post by Khador Administrator on Jul 19, 2010 11:45:48 GMT -6
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Post by Wren(nen) on Jul 19, 2010 17:03:13 GMT -6
I mean a physical hard copy. I'm already having enough headaches, I'd rather not sit and read the entire thing on a screen. If someone already has a hard copy, might as well save some trees and ink. BUt thank though, I'll look into the web copy.
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